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post Dec 11 2005, 07:40 AM
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I was wondering if anyone has tried the short little snow skis with their kite?

I am just learning how to snowboard, so I pulled out my long downhill skis. I picked it up in minutes, but I think those short skis would work even better. The transition is a little tricky with long skis, but very cool.

I seen a Mini snowboard for adults, has anyone researched this new technology for snow kiting. Since the snowboard is 1/2 the size it looks much easier to move around on and with the kite to give you power it should be fine. I am doing some research on it so any information would be appreciated.

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post Dec 13 2005, 06:35 AM
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I use microskis. They are very nice on a good base of snow, and turn easily. On ice I use cut-down downhill skis with a very sharp edge. If you try this, use older skis, that have straight edges, not parabilic. I will post some videos from last year later today.

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post Dec 13 2005, 08:18 AM
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I thought the micro skis would work good and I should get a chance to try a pair out on Wed or Thurs (wind permitting). biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

I do have an older pair of straight skis I could cut down for the ice.

What length do you reccommend for the cut down?
I am about 205 lbs, 5ft 9in give or take a 12 pack. some say husky or pudgy, I say big boned.

Will a ski shop do this for me, so I can have them reset the bindings correctly?

Great information and thank you! I will let you know how it works out.


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post Dec 13 2005, 08:38 AM
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in last months "the kiteboarder" Mag they had a section on snowkiting, and sure enough a couple of companies have already started making really wide and short snowboards. I can't remember the name though. you can see the whole mag online as a pdf .
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QUOTE(Turtle)
I thought the micro skis would work good and I should get a chance to try a pair out on Wed or Thurs (wind permitting). biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

I do have an older pair of straight skis I could cut down for the ice.

What length do you reccommend for the cut down?

I have a couple of sets. One is just a few inches longer than my ski boot, and works great on crunchy, warm ice surfaces, but not on cold glare ice. I would recommend about 3-5 feet. I do know one guy that doesn't cut them down at all.
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I am about 205 lbs, 5ft 9in give or take a 12 pack. some say husky or pudgy, I say big boned.

Will a ski shop do this for me, so I can have them reset the bindings correctly?

I doubt it. But you can ask.
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Great information and thank you! I will let you know how it works out.

Your welcome.
And Lee Sedgewick in Erie PA reports that the ice on Presque Isle bay is completely frozen over, and might be safe to go out on this weekend.
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I said I would post some videos, but the Putfile site was malfunctioning. Its working now, so here they are.

http://media.putfile.com/Gary146
http://media.putfile.com/Raiders85
http://media.putfile.com/SaulEdgewaterKiteski

The last one shows me on the micro skis.
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I was at Metro yesterday and the Micro Skis are the Shit! Much easier to turn than long skis and less gear to carry around. I need to spend some time on them to get good, but looks like this is my short term answer.

I contacted Kiteboarder Mag and got the manufacturer of the mini snowboard specifically for Kiteobarding. One is on the way and I will let you guys know how it goes. The Manufacturer explained the binding mounts are modified to eliminate the heel drag and the tip and tail are the same flex. I guess on a regular snowboard these are the two major issues making it harder to use on a kite application. The kite specific board is actually less than a mid range snowboard from a good manufacturer.

I am also am having a friend cut down my old skis becuase the ski shop would not touch it. Didn't think so, but I enjoyed the conversation with the Ski tech "you want to do what?".

Thanks again and I hope to see all soon!


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http://media.putfile.com/2005IceKites11
http://media.putfile.com/HelmetCamIce1
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My old ski boots are killing my feet and need to be upgraded. I guess my feet have grown from when I was 20 or they just fatter due to gravity.

I was thinking of buying new ski boots. Does anyone know if I need to spend a boat load of money on boots for Kite Skiing or will a cheap pair do just fine?

I was also re-thinking cutting my old skis down and might buy the shortest skis possible new (again cheap). My bindings are from the 80's and a ski shop won't even re-mount them for me.

Does anyone know what the shortest (non-micro) skis you can get for an adult?. I was at Sports Authority yesterday and seen some short ones, but I think they are kids. Does it matter? Should I look for a certain stiffness? Is one brand or style going to be better for the ice than another?

Help a Turtle out! Any input would be much appreciated.


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post Dec 16 2005, 09:14 AM
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Been using both long and "shorty skis
Shorty (~2 1/2 ft) for the winder and snowier days.
The long skis (180cm) are good for the ice; seem to need that long edge to get a bite on the ice.

Actually bought the shorty for my daughter for down hill, but she never really liked them so I've put them to good use the last couple of winters. They have bindings that are easily adjustable to any size boot, but they are non-release bindings so beware of ankle twisters. Bought them new at 'play it again sports' for ~$80.00.

We where out on a giant last week-end and I was glad I had the very old 180cm skis as we hit rocks dirt and other stuff that scraped the #$^$% out of the bottom.

As far as boots are concerned, I use a very vey old pair.
I bought them used ten yrs ago, and told by a downhill ski salesman: "I'd like to sell you a set of skis, but you really need boots: your legs are inputting the motion but the bots aren't transferring it to the skis": Interpretation: you boots are so old and the padding so worn out that they slop around on your feet. He was right of course, but these same boots have been working for the past two winters for kiteboarding. It more kite control than leg to ski input imho.


Regarding cutting down skis: I've cut down a few pair, and depending the composite used it can work well or leave a mess. That needs to be re-fiber glassed at the ends.

For binding use the same screws as the original mount and make sure you drill the right size pilot hole for the screw. I even drilled through the ski one time but a little of the melt-able epoxy they sell at ski shops fixed it for years.


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post Dec 16 2005, 05:20 PM
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QUOTE(Turtle)
My old ski boots are killing my feet and need to be upgraded. I guess my feet have grown from when I was 20 or they just fatter due to gravity.

I was thinking of buying new ski boots. Does anyone know if I need to spend a boat load of money on boots for Kite Skiing or will a cheap pair do just fine?

I was also re-thinking cutting my old skis down and might buy the shortest skis possible new (again cheap). My bindings are from the 80's and a ski shop won't even re-mount them for me.

Does anyone know what the shortest (non-micro) skis you can get for an adult?. I was at Sports Authority yesterday and seen some short ones, but I think they are kids. Does it matter? Should I look for a certain stiffness? Is one brand or style going to be better for the ice than another?

Help a Turtle out! Any input would be much appreciated.

I'm using the same boots I had in the 80's, and they work fine, even with the much newer micro skis. If you really need new boots, try Play It Again Sports. They should have good boots and straight skis you can get for a song and won't feel much hesitation cutting them down. Just remember, for ice they need to be really sharp. I run them over my belt sander a couple of times.
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