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Kite U.S. Forums _ Kitesnowboarding _ Foil or Inflatable for the snow?

Posted by: snowkiter Dec 3 2005, 03:25 PM

I am thinking of purchasing an Ozone foil for this winter season. Is this going to be a better option than my current 12m Naish boxer? I do not have a 5th line on my kite. I hear there are advantages to using foils, especially Ozone on the snow. Any real world feedback would be apreciated.

Posted by: Turtle Dec 7 2005, 09:44 AM

I am no Expert, but I have a lot of kites, so this should count for something. I bought three foils (3M, 5M, 8M) for Winter and Land Kiting about a month ago and love them.

Here is my reasoning:

I am a novice so I drop my kite a lot. I would hate to see what happens to my inflatables after being pounded on the ice, snow or dirt. I had enough repairs to my bladders over the summer from just smacking the water.

Re-launching a foil (3 or 5 line) on land or water is much easier than inflatables. I have heard if it’s windy an inflatables kite just slides across the ice/snow because there is no friction. The foils launch in the power zone and inflatables are to the side of the window.

My foils are so much lighter and take up less room in my vehicle. I can have my snowboard, 3 foils and the rest of my gear in a trunk.

The setup and take down time for foils is 1/2 the time of inflatables. More time to kite, less time on rigging!

Now I would consult a professional on the jumping and speed aspect of foils vs. inflatables. I can't speak for these areas because I have not yet reached the point of a controlled jump. My foils are 3 lines and it seems to me to be much less to tangle than my inflatables 5 line kites.

Get a helmet, elbow & knee pads along with snowboarding tailbone protectors. I thought I was TO COOL to wear pads the first time out, well my elbow is still black and blue after 2 weeks. I have been told I am much sexier with a one piece skull, no large purple marks all over my body and being able to go to the restroom without assistance. But I could be wrong, chicks could dig guys that Snow Kiteboard without any protection (Bad boys, Bad Boys, what you gunna do?).

I have heard Ozone is a real good brand and Kyle from Detroit Kiteboarding is a rep for them. Kyle's number is under the shops section of our website

I go out most every windy day to land or snow kite in Metro Detroit. If you want to join me my cell is (586) 201-4603. Friday looks like a SWEET day, just need to find a good spot with snow to board, but if not I will pull out the land boards.


Posted by: mlanthie Dec 8 2005, 12:52 PM

Agree with turtle, spent two winters ago trashing a couple of inflatables on the ice.
Last year got a 8M foil and love it: set up, take down, and the total control the brake lines offer.
I can take a break in 20+MPH winds and just wrap the brake line to the snowboard and be totally unhooked to take a rest and walk around with out being tied to the kite. Heard Brian at GLK is handling a line of foils this year

Although I'm not good at jumping with the foil (or inflatable for that matter) there are a lot of people out there who are. Check out these guys in Antarctica.
I had a link to a video where the guy coming off a mountain doing several mid-air spins a few hundred ft off the ground. Can't locate it now, but if I do I'll post the link.

Posted by: DrewCiora Dec 8 2005, 02:50 PM

Is the cost of a foil kite similar to inflatable?


Posted by: Turtle Dec 8 2005, 05:15 PM

I would say foils are about 30% less than their inflateable counterparts. Keep in mind you do not need near as much kite on the snow or land. With a 15-20mph wind on the water I am on a 14M, on land all I need is my 8M or even my 5M. I bought a 3M, 5M and 8M just so my son and wife could ride the same day I am. I would think a (2) kite foil quiver would be more than plenty. I would ask a dealer to verify which two sizes would be good. I am not sure if the 4 size rule difference counts for foils or just inflatealbes (ex. 9M 13M 17M)

Ask your local dealer to call the manufacturer to see if there are any last year models or demo kites. They sell these to the dealers at a discount and they pass it on to you, but you need to ask. I did this and saved more than 25% off the same kite new. My kites could not have been used more then once, they are still crispy.


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